Sadly, just spambots…

First of all, yes, this “week’s” post is a few days late (from Friday to Monday – sorry).

If you read the previous week’s post, thanks, but it turns out to be a wasted post. All of the “readers” that signed up for accounts were just spambots. Why do they want to do this?

I tried a couple of different plug-ins to try to subvert their malicious actions, but to no avail (some were slightly better than others, but non was what I’d call a success). So, I’m back to a “closed” subscriber base. That is, if you want to subscribe so that you can comment on posts, you’ll need to send me an email via the Contact page, which is protected by Google’s reCaptcha v3. Hopefully this will solve the problem.

I’d be happy to have human readers, and I’d be ecstatic to have some comments from human readers (as long as you follow the rules (see the “Administrivia” section of the “Civilization?” page). So get on the Contact page, send me a message with a little bit about yourself, and if you seem legit I’ll create an account for you.

Finally, I hope to be back on schedule this week with a post on Friday. If there is anyone out there, check back then.

Wow! And some admin stuff…


Holy cow! As of this morning, there are 27 approved users for this site. There are about 6 more that are still pending – I’m trying to discern which ones are legitimate and which ones are spammers. Of course, some of the users that I’ve approved might turn out to be spammers.

So, fair warning: if you post a comment on this site trying to sell any of the types of “meds” typically hawked by spammers, or if you post a comment about “get more traffic to your site” or “get better rankings in search engines,” or any of the other uninteresting and nonsensical tripe that I’ll need to mark as spam, I will immediately disable your account and delete the offending comments.

Now, to those of you who are legitimately interested in the subject matter of this site (more on that in a minute), I apologize for needing to write the above paragraph. You are more than welcome here, and I encourage your participation. In fact, if you’re reading this and your account has already been approved, please log in and leave a comment for me to let me know that someone is actually reading this. Also, if your account has been approved, please log in and then add some info to your account profile so I can get a sense of who you are.

What It’s All About

It may not be totally clear what the subject matter for this site will be, so let me attempt to clarify a bit. I created the domain name several years ago, with the intention to create and use a site to explore and write about two things that interest me (and that also happen to relate well, I think): post-apocalyptic speculative fiction, and “Space Opera.” Interwoven in both, of course, are the social, cultural, and spiritual issues that humans, and particularly groups of humans, deal with on a daily basis.

The “shipside” stories and musings will comprise the Space Opera content. I will soon write a post that will provide the backstory for the ship and the folks onboard, and then I’ll get started on some short stories about them.

The “dirtside” stories and musings will comprise the post-apocalyptic speculative fiction content. Again, I intend to write a backstory that details the return of the generation ship (see paragraph above) to an Earth much like the one we inhabit, but more-or-less devoid of human technology. In other words, an Earth that has returned to the Neolithic era, or New Stone Age. It may also be more-of-less devoid of humans, but that is yet to be decided. The flora and fauna will be the descendants of those which are extant today, with some mutations that have evolved to exploit niches created by the collapse of human civilization.

If there are humans, they will not be zombies or mutant vampires or anything like that. They will be the descendants-of-the-descendants of today’s humans; the descendants who were able to adapt to the demands of survival in a post-apocalyptic era.


“Real soon now,” I’ll be adding pages with a privacy policy, terms of use, and other necessary “non-content.” I’ll also add a contact page so that you can send me email directly with any questions or comments. In the meantime, please be kind to each other (and to me) with comments and replies to comments.

Regarding privacy, I don’t, and most likely won’t, collect any personal information about the readers here, beyond that which is provided if you request an account (which is necessary to make comments). And I will never – not now and not ever – sell, give away, or provide any of your information to anyone (with the exception of any court orders or warrants that require me to provide any information, but let’s hope it never comes to that).

It is my intention to not monetize this site. I want this to be a place for folks to read and think and discuss the subject matter of the content and related issues. I don’t want to say “never,” but I also plan to avoid having any ads on this site. Also, I won’t create any posts or pages that start playing any type of audio or video when you visit them (I hate that on sites that I visit).

Finally, everything on this site is copyrighted by me. You all know what that means: don’t copy significant portions of the content and use it like you own it. I’m perfectly fine with the “fair use” exclusions, but I’d appreciate attribution, or at least a link back to the part of this site from which any quotes or citations are taken. I’ll be editing the site footer to include a copyright notice – I just realized it doesn’t have that already.

Thanks for reading! Enjoy…

Assumptions, Part 2: Spaceside

Last week, I summarized the assumptions that I’m making about any planet to which humans might eventually travel. Note that this would include Earth, if a generation ship traveled with a constant acceleration long enough to reach a significant fraction of the speed of light, such that the time dilation effect returned them to an Earth significantly older than the ship itself. In fact, this is the premise that I will use as the basis for the spaceside part of the site – that the journey both begins and ends at Earth.

This week I’m listing some of the assumptions about the journey on which humans would travel to get to such a planet. At some future point, I’ll speculate or provide my ideas and opinions about the ship – what it might look like, how it might be constructed, what source it might use for internal power, the propulsion system, provision for artificial gravity, and other relevant problems that would have to be solved. This week, however, I want to describe some assumptions about the journey and the people on it.

Physics Considerations

First, which direction do we go, and what path do we follow? Because the Milky Way Galaxy (the one in which Earth is located) is basically disk-shaped, it probably makes sense to travel a path more-or-less perpendicular to the galactic plane in order to minimize the chance of running into anything. Let’s assume that a course could be found that would allow the ship to travel in a straight line away from, and then back to, Earth, without encountering anything with which it might collide.

Next, a consideration that instantly comes to my mind about the trip is “how fast and how long?” Because we want to use time dilation to let significantly more time pass on Earth than on the ship, the answer to “how fast” is “very fast, but depends on how long it can be sustained.” More on that in the next paragraph. The answer to the question of “how long” is “fairly long, but depends on how fast we can go.” So, this becomes a problem of two related variables. However, while the “how long” depends i part on “how fast,” it also depends on some unrelated assumptions, such as how much longevity and reliability we can build into such a ship with today’s (21st century) technology. I’ve settled on an assumption of a total journey time of 1000 years, composed of a 500 year long outbound segment followed by a 500 year long return segment. These two 500 year long segments would be composed of a 250 year long acceleration followed by a 250 year long deceleration. (Yes, I know, both are technically “acceleration,” but I think this makes it clearer.) So, the ship begins to accelerate away from Earth orbit on a path basically perpendicular to the galactic plane, accelerates in a straight line for 250 years, decelerates along that same line for 250 years (at which point it is momentarily stationary), then begins to accelerate back along the same line in “reverse” – that is, back toward Earth – for 250 years, and finally decelerates along that line for 250 years at which time it falls back into Earth orbit.

It is important at this point to acknowledge that acceleration and speed are different. The minimum speed that the ship needs to sustain in order to achieve at least the minimum desired time dilation is a calculation for another time. Any acceleration that is applied long enough will achieve and then exceed that minimum speed. So, the acceleration is one of the assumptions I’m going to make, with some more-or-less informed guessing. A few calculations might help in thinking about this, and the following sites are interesting and informative:

  • Earth gravity: 9.81 m/s²
  • Speed of light: 299,792,458 m/s
  • A helpful website for velocity calculations:
  • Our velocity after 250 years at 0.01g: 773,950,000 m/s (but this is faster than the speed of light, so not possible)
  • Our velocity after 250 years at 0.001g: 77,395,000 m/s (or approximately 26% of the speed of light, but is this fast enough?)

Note that the above calculations ignore any effects of relativity, other than time dilation, as velocity increases. There is almost certainly some maximum practical limit to the velocity we can attain, even with constant acceleration.

At this point I’m going to assume a constant acceleration of between 0.01 gravity and 0.001 gravity. That’s a pretty wide range, and we’ll narrow it down later. For now, we’ll just assume an acceleration that will provide a time dilation effect of, say, 10 to 1 (or greater), so that Earth ages at least 10,000 years while the ship makes the journey of 1000 year.

Human Factors

Another important consideration for the journey is to avoid a situation where a single failure, accident, or malicious act kills the entire population on the ship. The best way to do this – I think – is to partition the people on the ship into many identical “containers.” That is, divide the ship into separate physical sections that are self-contained, self-sufficient, identical in construction and environment, and isolated from each other. That way, if a “mad scientist” (or just some mutation) creates a virus that kills everyone in a section of the ship, the people in the other sections survive to complete the journey. This works similarly for a failure or accident. Also, this allows the society in each “container” to develop independently, which should provide a good diversity of approaches to civilization.

Finally, how many people are initially needed in each “container” in order to provide a viable population for 1000 years? And, what is the estimated population at the end of the journey (we’ll need to determine what the reproduction rate might be)? We’re probably looking at having 40 to 60 generations during the journey, and each container will need to be large enough to support the eventual estimated maximum population.

Estimates of how many people are required to sustain a society vary widely. The following articles provide some interesting and thoughtful commentary:

While it appears that the absolute minimum might be as low as 15 (we are ignoring the Biblical accounts of 2 (Adam and Eve), and 8 (Noah and his wife and their three sons and their wives) because of the different lifetimes recounted for them vs out current lifetime norms), and the widely regarded “minimum for 10 to 20 generations” is 160, I think we’d want to have a few more than that – let’s say 320. Now we need to consider how fast – if at all – the population will grow, in order to determine the required size for each of the “containers” in the ship. Relevant reading can be found at:

We will revisit this question at some future point, and perhaps try to come up with some justifiable estimates. For now, I’m going to assume an initial population in each “container” of 320, with at least 200 of them being of “reasonable” reproductive age (say, 20 to 35 years old) and more-or-less equal numbers of males and females. Further, I’m going to assume that over the 1000 ship-year journey, the population of each “container” increases to and stabilizes at 3200.